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fafa85
Posted: Monday, September 12, 2011 6:02:25 PM
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Hi everyone. My father was diagnozed by ALS one year ago. It is just devastating for all of us in the family. His arms are getting weaker as well a s his voice. He is using Rilutek for now.Plz keep me updated any new medication if possible. I would be grateful.
AveMaria
Posted: Monday, September 12, 2011 6:33:51 PM

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Hi Fafa85,
Research on this forum-WF10. How close are you to Thailand? It is available in Thailand, but do your research 1st.
fafa85
Posted: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:17:45 AM
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Thanks AveMaria. Actually, I m in Tunisia (North Africa), but I will make a research on it first. Can you please recommend the corresponding link. Thanks for your help.
Lizyankee2
Posted: Friday, October 21, 2011 12:10:34 PM
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Hi! I am new to the forum. I was diagnosed with ALS 8/2011; but my symptoms started in 5/09. Took doctors awhile to figure me out. I started this journey by noticing my feet would shuffle or drop when I would go out to run. Over the next 6 months leg stiffness started, then falling. Oct 2010 started to use a cane, but by April went to a walker. My voice gets deep once in awhile & I have major muscle atrophy in my hands. I can't raise my arms high enough to brush or wash my own hair. My husband is my care-giver. My abilities are very limited BUT, I haven't given up. I'm proud & happy to be able to do some things. I started taking Rilutek 3 weeks ago... makes me dizzy; and who knows if it is helping? I try to lift weights - 2lbs - for my arms & do the ellyptical for 10-15 minutes a day. I am NOT giving up! That's my story! We're all the same; yet different when it comes to this disease.
Olly
Posted: Friday, October 21, 2011 12:17:27 PM

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Welcome one and all but sorry you have to join us...


For those who are new here some suggested links are:

http://www.als.net/forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=48293

http://www.als.net/forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=49413

You should start at the beginning.
Long posts, I know, but maybe something to give you some hope?


Into the heart, an air that kills, from yon far country blows.
What are those blue remembered hills, what sphires what farms are those.
That is the land of lost content,I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went and cannot come again
rah05
Posted: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 9:57:08 PM
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Hi Everyone!
I am new to this forum. I was diagnosed with ALS on October 17, 2011, but I have had symptoms since September of 2010.
This is devasting and really difficult to accept! At the present time, I have drop foot in both feet, my legs are weak and painful, I have atrophy in my right leg, left hand, and tongue, and fasciculations in both legs, both arms, and tongue. I am trying to keep a positive attitude, but I have to admit that I am scared of the unknown. I have an amazing support group of family and friends, and I don't know what I would do without my loving, supportive husband! I am 48 years old and still working as an elementary school teacher, but simple tasks are becoming very difficult. My jaws and tongue get so tired from talking all day, and my body is just worn out! I do thank God for the movement I have, and I pray all the time for a better treatment than Rilutek and a cure for all of us!
ichisan
Posted: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:57:44 PM
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rah05 wrote:
Hi Everyone!
I am new to this forum. I was diagnosed with ALS on October 17, 2011, but I have had symptoms since September of 2010.
This is devasting and really difficult to accept! At the present time, I have drop foot in both feet, my legs are weak and painful, I have atrophy in my right leg, left hand, and tongue, and fasciculations in both legs, both arms, and tongue. I am trying to keep a positive attitude, but I have to admit that I am scared of the unknown. I have an amazing support group of family and friends, and I don't know what I would do without my loving, supportive husband! I am 48 years old and still working as an elementary school teacher, but simple tasks are becoming very difficult. My jaws and tongue get so tired from talking all day, and my body is just worn out! I do thank God for the movement I have, and I pray all the time for a better treatment than Rilutek and a cure for all of us!

Hello rah05 and welcome. I too am somewhat new to this forum. Let me come right out and say that there is something exciting going on right now that should give ALS sufferers and their loved ones at least a glimmer of hope. I suggest you go on over to the Oral Sodium Chlorite discussion/thread and read the whole thing.
millstones
Posted: Thursday, December 08, 2011 1:11:46 AM

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If you have questions just post. The oral sodium chlorite offers real hope. At 100 plus pages it takes some reading but is well worth it.

John
clumy
Posted: Thursday, December 08, 2011 2:25:02 AM
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my husband was diagnosed in june this year. I believe it started last year. The family was devastated. The neuros are not much help. Their advice is `you have 6 months to do what you want to do. There's no cure & they prescribed rilutek.'
I found that it mostly a selfhelp situation. My husband tries to forget. I don't want to give up. My daughter & I have been on the net at all hours. He got wasting of R & L hands, sleep apnea (machine). He's taking Vit B12, D & E. fish oil & massage. IS there anything, anything at all? What about the Symposium? Didn't hear feedback.
please tell us what you heard/got.
Olly
Posted: Thursday, December 08, 2011 9:29:20 AM

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clumy
read the Oral Sodium Chlorite thread.
It's hard going, as it's a long thread but as John above states well worth the read...

First part of up to about ten pages is really the discussion period but from then on it gets really interesting as feed back from those trying oral sodium chlorite gets fed back onto the thread.

Into the heart, an air that kills, from yon far country blows.
What are those blue remembered hills, what sphires what farms are those.
That is the land of lost content,I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went and cannot come again
pcg
Posted: Sunday, April 08, 2012 9:45:52 PM
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Lois, you and I sound like we are in the same boat. My husband was diagnosed in Jan 2010; with symptoms much longer. Bulbar onset. Speech is gone. Food is through a tube. It sounds silly but if I can "help" you somehow, let me know. Patty
juliamon
Posted: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 6:27:21 PM
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Hi there, I am new to the forum, and am so happy to have found it. My dad was recently diagnosed with ALS.

I am trying to watch the ALS 101 webcasts you recommended but am having trouble getting the sound to work. any tips/ direct links to a webcast that works?

Thanks!!
Julia
Forjanette
Posted: Monday, June 18, 2012 8:41:54 PM
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Hi, I am brand new to this web page. My mother-in-law was recently diagnosed with Bulbar ALS. She waited almost a year after her symptoms began to see a doctor. Now, I am one of her primary caregivers, 2-4 days a week. She can barely talk anymore because it exhausts her. She has a peg and doesn't want to even take the time to eat through that most days. She can't eat anything solid or regular liquid by mouth. I am really interested in finding some ways to help her quality of life and comfort level. She has really bad constipation and I've been reading some really good posts about different things to try. I'm so glad I found this page! Thank you to those participating and willing to share your experiences.

Janette
Olly
Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:10:06 PM

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They are a bit out of date but the following post gives some links to some of the main threads for newbies, who want to do their own research and also show off what research has occured on this site.

Site Links to threads?

http://www.als.net/forum/yaf_postst50026_Site-Links-to-threads.aspx

Into the heart, an air that kills, from yon far country blows.
What are those blue remembered hills, what sphires what farms are those.
That is the land of lost content,I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went and cannot come again
Olly
Posted: Thursday, June 21, 2012 8:59:02 AM

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It is easy to forget that new ALS cases join us every day and after the inital shock look at what they can do for themselves.

For those who are looking to take suplements or vitamins etc there are some good links on this site but they are hard to find.

If you have any questions or require furthe information on a particular drug or vitamin etc use the search facility next to the inbox button above.

For a starter here is the thread that some have posted before on cocktails being taken and give the reasons why.

I hope this helps and sorry you have to join us?

http://www.als.net/forum/yaf_postst48623_The-Ultimate-Ducktail.aspx#327843

Into the heart, an air that kills, from yon far country blows.
What are those blue remembered hills, what sphires what farms are those.
That is the land of lost content,I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went and cannot come again
rar
Posted: Monday, July 09, 2012 3:46:58 PM

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Hi,
I am new to the forum but not to ALS. I started having symptoms in 2008 but the first 2 doctors I went to told me I just eat too much. I was finally officially diagnosed in March 2010. I just joined this forum last week. I found it while trying to find if research has been done using steroids as a treatment. I was prescribed prednisone to try and clear up fluid in my ear and after 2 weeks have noticed improvement in my hands and arms, ability to stand with assistance. Also, my speech has improved slightly. I sent an email to my neurologist (the infamous Dr. Glass at Emory ALS clinic) asking about it but have not gotten a reply. He must be busy in the kitchen. Who knows what he's cooking up. I have immensely enjoyed reading the different topics and can now see daylight at the end of the tunnel.
Thank you all
Rick
zoohouse
Posted: Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:48:01 AM
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Hi,
I am new to this forum and to ALS even though I have been a nurse for 30+ years. My husband was diagnosed in Aug/12 and I have been researching it ever since. I have been to several ALS forums and found this one to be extremely proactive, and positive. I have found myself laughing and crying at many of the posts that I have read, and eagerly checking for updates on each thread. I must say that I have been extremely humbled at the incredible knowledge that I have found here, most I assume is self learned. I thought I had a pretty good knowledge of medical terminology, and understanding about human physiology, but now know that I am sorely ignorant. My husbands brother advised that he start on "MMS" but after all the reading I have done I have been extremely wary of "cure alls" that are being hawked to desperate people. Of course I found what the FDA said, and told him to stay clear of it. Well, as many good husbands do he ignored me and started 4 days ago, and only told me after I started to read on this forum about Sodium Chlorite. He said "Hey that is MMS, the stuff Stick told me about!" Apparently his brother has been using it for some time for cleansing etc. I didn't realize he had taken it until he told me that after mixing a drop of this and a drop of that it changes colours and gives of chlorine like fumes, but doesn't taste like anything when he takes it with water. HEAD SNAP, and Stare!!!! You've been taking it? Thankfully I had read a substantial amount that had been written here, so was subdued and did not slay him.
He says that his fasciculations seem less, and he feels more steady on his feet.
Speaking of fasciculations I think the up coming American elections is having an affect on them. Every time he gets talking about politics, which is a lot, they get really bad. Has anyone else noticed this?
Anyway, I look forward to reading more of the subjects here, and have the upmost respect for the keen investigating that I find here, and replies of all the different characters as well. Thank You.
JoeZ
Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:08:33 PM
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Hello, I am New to the forum
Geraldinehenry
Posted: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:13:06 AM
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warrior wrote:
Nat, Sorry you are having to deal with AlS. You are at the right place. Feel free to ask questions. Folks here have been through most ALS experiences and they are a great source of assistance. ALS doesn't know how to deal with LOVE, and you obviously have a lots of it for your PAL. Keep it up. Together, We Will Beat ALS. The first six months are perhaps the toughest b/c we are dealing with something we have no control over, and it is ever changing. But, it will get stablized and you will be able to develope a routine. Welcome to the Best Forum. Warrior.
Olly
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Some technical pointers for newbies and I stress this is only my point of view - the type of ALS you have a an individual should in theory dictate the type of therapy you should be looking at.

In other words there is a difference between known genetic types of ALS, the main ones being SOD1 and TDP-43 mutations. Some substances (drugs, suppliments etc) work better for SOD1 dysfunction and some work better for TDP-43 dysfunction.

FUS/TLS mutation is another sub type of ALS with mental decline in ALS patients.

As most of us are sporadic ALS we will not know what type we are?

So the following may indicate or point to what type of ALS you have and possible enable you to slectively target your home grown therapy.

Bulbar onset seems to be mostly TDP-43 dysfunction but this is not 100% true but near enough and notice below that no FUS/TLS mutations were found in a survey of 293 patients with sporadic ALS.

Common pathways for all types seem to be immune/inflammation modulation but in SOD dysfunction this may be a driver of progression speed.

Not proven or seen, by myself, in TDP-43 so far but papers are sparse on TDP-43 dysfunction immune modulation and whether the immune system is a driver of illness progression.

This also has relevance when looking at any technical paper if you think you know what sub type you are.

You will see references in technical papers to the following so some explanation is required:

PALS = people with ALS
SALS = sporadic ALS =no known cause of ALS and doesn't run in families. About 90% of ALS is of this type.
FALS = familiar ALS = runs in families and usually caused by a genetic mutation with (not always) an aging factor.



From the TDP-43 type ALS thread:
http://www.als.net/forum/yaf_postst50601_TDP43-type-ALS.aspx

Mutations in TDP-43 is a sub set of ALS different from SOD1 ALS

It looks like TDP-43 mutations on its own does not cause Frontotemporal lobar degeneration: FTLD

The C9ORF72 mutation is a major cause of familial frontotemporal dementia with TDP-43 pathology

More than 30 mutations in the TDP-43 gene have been identified in patients with familial and sporadic ALS.
Abnormal TDP-43 is not present in cases of ALS with SOD1 mutations, which suggests that SOD1-related ALS and sporadic ALS are not caused by the same disease mechanisms.

However, abnormal TDP-43 is present in familial cases of ALS that lack SOD1 mutations, which suggests some familial and sporadic ALS cases are caused by similar mechanisms.
Recent advances in research have identified an ubiquinated protein that is commonly found in the majority of ALS cases.

In healthy nerve cells this protein, called TDP-43, is typically localized to the nucleus.

The nucleus is where the cell stores the information required to make proteins needed for normal cell function.

However, in affected nerve cells, TDP-43 is only found in the cytoplasm.

The cytoplasm is located outside of the nucleus and is the primary site for chemical activity in the cell.

Additionally, biochemical studies have shown that the accumulated TDP-43 located in the affected nerve cells contain abnormal variants of the protein.

The accumulation of abnormal TDP-43 in this area of the cell is speculated to cause a loss in cellular function (due to the absence of normal TDP-43 in the nucleus), thereby impairing the viability of the affected nerve cells.
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The researchers detected the clumps of TDP-43 in the brains of all cases except the SOD1 cases, suggesting that most forms of ALS were driven by TDP-43 abnormalities, while SOD1 was relevant only in rare cases.

If so, this finding would have major implications for ALS research, since the standard tool for drug testing in ALS since the mid 1990s has been a transgenic mouse with mutant SOD1—a “model” assumed to share most of its disease pathways with ordinary ALS
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No FUS/TLS mutations were found in a survey of 293 patients with sporadic ALS.

2. Importantly, TDP-43-positive inclusions are absent in ALS patients with FUS/TLS mutations, implying that neurodegenerative processes driven by FUS/TLS mutations are independent of TDP-43 aggregation

3. A considerable proportion of patients with SALS harboured mutations in major ALS genes. This result has relevant implications in clinical practice, namely in genetic counselling. The detection of double mutations in 2 patients raises the hypothesis that multiple mutations model may explain genetic architecture of SALS.

Clinical comparison of SOD1, TARDBP, FUS and other familial ALS patients (with no mutation in the screened genes) revealed differences in site of onset (predominantly lower limbs for SOD1 and upper limbs for TARDBP mutations), age of onset (younger with FUS mutations), and in lifespan (shorter for FUS carriers).
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This possibly indicates that the chances of those with bulbar onset are not SOD1 mutants but probable TDP-43.

Note it just means the odds are better that bulbar onset is not SOD1 mutant type.

Bulbar onset has been claimed to be rare among patients with SOD1 mutations but has been reported (Table 2).

While many patients with SOD1 mutations reportedly are clinically identical to patients without SOD1 mutations, a predominantly lower motor neuron pattern is the rule for patients with a SOD1 mutation.

No case with predominantly upper motor neuron (UMN) features have been reported for SOD1 mutants.

www.marionegri.it/mn/it/docs/aggiornamento/news/..
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Background: Most ALS cases are characterized with TDP-43(+), ubiquitin(+) inclusions in their diseased spinal cord motor neurons.

Results: Mice with targeted depletion of TDP-43 expression in the spinal cord motor neurons developed a range of ALS-like phenotypes.

Conclusion: TDP-43 is essential for the survival and functioning of the mammalian spinal cord motor neurons.

Significance: Loss-of-TDP-43 function could be one major cause for neurodegeneration in ALS with TDP-43 proteinopathies.

This study not only establishes an important role of TDP-43 in the long term survival and functioning of the mammalian spinal cord motor neurons, but it also establishes that loss-of-TDP-43 function could be one major cause for neurodegeneration in ALS with TDP-43 proteinopathies.
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TDP-43 continuously shuttles between the nucleus and cytoplasm, a process partially regulated by nuclear localization signal (NLS) and nuclear export signal (NES) motifs.

Restricting TDP-43 from entering the nucleus by changing the NLS motif in cell leads to cytoplasmic TDP-43 aggregates, changes in the solubility of TDP-43 and sequestration of endogenous TDP-43, thereby leading to a depletion of nuclear TDP-43

Thus, perturbation of the normal shuttling of TDP-43 between nucleus and cytoplasm leads to the formation of cytoplasmic inclusions and loss of nuclear TDP-43
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TDP-43 helps ensure proteins are produced appropriately by regulating the processing and translation of RNAs. But in over 90% of people with ALS, TDP-43 builds up in the cytoplasm of cells of the brain and spinal cord. The role of TDP-43 in ALS however remains controversial.

The team found that nearly one third of all genes in the mouse brain may be regulated at least in part by TDP-43. And, within the center of the brain, more than 1000 RNAs required TDP-43 for appropriate assembly or stability.
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To determine the effects of misplaced TDP-43 on the viability of neurons, the researchers made transgenic mice expressing human mutated TDP-43 in the cytoplasm and compared them to mice expressing normal human TDP-43 in the nucleus of nerve cells.

Expression of either human TDP-43 led to neuron loss in vulnerable forebrain regions; degeneration of part of the spinal cord tract; and muscle spasms in the mice.

These effects recapitulate key aspects of FTLD and a subtype of ALS known as primary lateral sclerosis.

The JCI study showed that a dramatic loss of function causes nerve-cell death because normal mouse TDP-43 is eliminated when human mutated TDP-43 genes are put into the mice.
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Neurodegeneration in the mouse neurons expressing TDP-43 -- both the normal and mutated human versions -- was accompanied by a dramatic downregulation of the TDP-43 protein mice are born with.

What’s more, mice expressing the mutated human TDP-43 exhibited profound changes in gene expression in neurons of the brain’s cortex.
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A recent study has shown that TDP-43 protein can be detected in blood samples and that levels of the protein are elevated in some patients with Alzheimer disease and FTD.

Two other small studies in Germany and Japan detected TDP-43 in cerebral spinal fluid (CSF) and found increased levels of TDP-43 in some patients with sporadic ALS.
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Possible linkage in pathology between SOD1 and TDP-43



PALS with a SOD1 defect have a build up of mutant SOD1 in their motor neurones, something which looks to be detrimental to neurone health.

In these people it's easy to visualise why a drug that removes SOD1 might be beneficial.

For the 98% of PALS with no SOD1 defect there is no build up of SOD1 but there are TDP-43 aggregates.

A recent paper indicated that excess TDP-43 downregulates SOD1...

The inverse correlation between increased TDP-43 and decreased SOD1 expression suggests a repressor role for TDP-43.

Such a repressor function of TDP-43 on select gene targets has been observed by others.

The validation of 5 out of 11 target genes from the TDP-43 linked protein interaction network as regulators of SOD1 expression (Figure S4 A, B) adds further credence to the importance of the network (Figure 4).

The current finding that TDP-43 regulates SOD1 is also consistent with a recent micro array study, where a modest increase in SOD1 mRNA levels was observed upon TDP knockdown'

This could be interpreted as the problem being as much the lack of SOD1 as it is the build up of TDP-43



The point being that PALS with no SOD1 defect might not want to take a compound that lowers SOD1 until there is a better understanding as to what's causing the disease.



Into the heart, an air that kills, from yon far country blows.
What are those blue remembered hills, what sphires what farms are those.
That is the land of lost content,I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went and cannot come again
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