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Posted: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:21:07 PM
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I would not use TRPV1 as a biomarker due to bradykinin induced depolarization
of the membranes by the additive effects of both TRPV1 and Cl (calcium activated chloride channels)
channels in the cough/respiratory reflex or response.
Personally, I have hi Cl ions in my blood chemistry.
Perhaps, as part of a multi-biomarker profile it may be informative.

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J Physiol. 2005 Jul 1;566(Pt 1):205-12. Epub 2005 Apr 28.
Role of chloride channels in bradykinin-induced guinea pig airway vagal C-fibre activation.
Lee MG, Macglashan DW Jr, Undem BJ.

Johns Hopkins Asthma and Allergy Center, 5501 Hopkins Bayview Circle, Baltimore, MD 21224, USA.

We tested the hypothesis that an ionic current carried by chloride ions contributes to bradykinin (BK)-induced membrane
depolarization and activation of vagal afferent C-fibres. In an ex vivo innervated trachea/bronchus preparation, BK (1 microM)
consistently produced action potential discharge in vagal afferent C-fibres with receptive fields in the trachea or main stem
bronchus. The Ca2+-activated Cl- channel (CLCA) inhibitor, niflumic acid (NFA, 100 microM), significantly reduced BK-induced action
potential discharge to 21 +/- 7% of the control BK response. NFA did not inhibit capsaicin-induced or citric-acid-induced action
potential discharge in tracheal C-fibres. The inhibitory effect of NFA was mimicked by another CLCA inhibitor,
5-nitro-2-(3-phenylpropylamino)-benzoic acid (NPPB, 100 microM). NFA also inhibited the BK-induced inward current in
gramicidin-perforated whole-cell patch-clamp recordings of capsaicin-sensitive jugular ganglion neurones retrogradely labelled from
the airways. NFA did not inhibit the BK-induced increase in intracellular free Ca2+. The TRPV1 inhibitor, iodo-resiniferatoxin (1
microM), also partially inhibited BK-induced action potential discharge, and the combination of iodo-resiniferatoxin and NFA
virtually abolished the BK-induced action potential discharge. We concluded that in vagal afferent C-fibres, BK evokes membrane
depolarization and action potential discharge through the additive effects of TRPV1 and Cl- channel activation.

PMID: 15860525 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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Handb Exp Pharmacol. 2009;(187):63-76.
Cough sensors. III. Opioid and cannabinoid receptors on vagal sensory nerves.

Belvisi MG, Hele DJ.

Respiratory Pharmacology, Airway Diseases, National Heart & Lung Institute, Imperial College, Guy Scadding Building, Dovehouse
Street, London SW3 6LY, UK. m.belvisi@imperial.ac.uk

Cough is a persistent symptom of many inflammatory airways' diseases. Cough is mediated by receptors sited on sensory nerves and then
through vagal afferent pathways, which terminate in the brainstem respiratory centre. Cough is often described as an unmet clinical
need. Opioids are the only prescription-based antitussives currently available in the UK. They possess limited efficacy and exhibit
serious unwanted side effects, such as physical dependence, sedation, respiratory depression and gastrointestinal symptoms. There are
three classical opioid receptors: the mu, kappa and delta receptors. Peripheral opioid receptors are sited on sensory nerves
innervating the airways. A greater understanding of the role of the peripheral and centrally sited opioid receptors is necessary to
allow the development of targeted treatments for cough. Because of the limited efficacy and the side-effect profile of the opioids,
potential new treatments are sought to alleviate cough. One class of compounds that is currently under examination is the
cannabinoids. Like the opioids, cannabinoids have peripheral and centrally sited receptors and also suffer from the blight of
unwanted centrally mediated side effects such as sedation, cognitive dysfunction, tachycardia and psychotropic effects. Two
cannabinoid receptors have been identified, the CB(1) and CB(2) receptors, and their distribution varies throughout the peripheral
and central nervous system. Encouragingly, early studies with these compounds suggest that it may be possible to separate their
antitussive activity from their centrally mediated side effects, with CB(2) agonists showing potential as putative new treatments for
cough. In this chapter, we describe the opioid and cannabinoid receptors, their distribution and the effects they mediate. Moreover,
we highlight their potential advantages and disadvantages in the treatment of cough.

PMID: 18825336 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Mary Reid
Posted: Sunday, January 24, 2010 6:58:51 PM
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Hi researcher,

Thanks for your reply.

It's interesting that you report high Cl levels. The studies I've been reading don't support this as a general thing. One study found an association with higher Cl and slower disease progression. I'd like to explore this association with bradykinin which you suggest. Are you taking an ACE inhibitor by any chance? Does the side effect of those drugs, which increase bradykinin levels, explain the coughing side-effect of these drugs? Is it due to increased TRPV1 signalling? Dr McCandless" mention of sneezing has me wonder whether this is an area to look at. I thought I'd read somewhere that ACE inhibitors were protective in ALS. This study looks interesting "Effect of kinin B(2) receptor ablation on skeletal muscle development and myostatin gene expression"

Mary

Evidence that enhanced nasal reactivity to bradykinin in patients with symptomatic allergy is mediated by neural reflexes☆☆☆★★★
Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology, Volume 97, Issue 6, Pages 1252-1263
M.RICCIO

Abstract
OBJECTIVE: The aim of this study was to determine whether allergic inflammation induces nasal hyperreactivity to bradykinin by enhancing neuronal responsiveness. METHODS: We compared the response to localized, unilateral nasal challenge with bradykinin in patients with perennial allergic rhinitis and nonallergic subjects, and in patients with seasonal allergic rhinitis challenged in and out of season. Weights of secretions from each nostril were recorded, and levels of albumin and lactoferrin in secretions recovered from each nostril were assayed. Contralateral administration of atropine (0.32 mg) was used to evaluate the role of cholinergic reflexes in nasal hyperresponsiveness to bradykinin. RESULTS: In patients with symptomatic allergy, bradykinin induced greater symptom scores than in asymptomatic atopic or nonallergic control subjects. Moreover, bradykinin caused sneezing in a majority of patients with symptomatic allergy but in none of the asymptomatic atopic or nonallergic control subjects. Only patients with symptomatic allergy showed dose-dependent bilateral increases in secretion weights and levels of the serous glandular marker, lactoferrin. In contrast, bradykinin induced similar increases in ipsilateral, but not contralateral, levels of albumin in all patient populations. Atropine inhibited contralateral secretion and lactoferrin production (p < 0.05) in patients with symptomatic allergy. CONCLUSION: The induction of sneezing and of atropine-inhibitable contralateral glandular secretion demonstrates that allergic inflammation causes nasal hyperreactivity to bradykinin, at least in part, by enhancing neuronal responsiveness. (J ALLERGY CLIN IMMUNOL 1996;97:1252-63.)

Lung. 2009 Nov 30. [Epub ahead of print]

Neuropeptides. 2009 Dec 30. [Epub ahead of print]

Effect of kinin B(2) receptor ablation on skeletal muscle development and myostatin gene expression.
de Picoli Souza K, Batista EC, Silva ED, Reis FC, Silva SM, Araujo RC, Luz J, Santos EL, Pesquero JB.

School of Environmental and Biological Science, Federal University of Grande Dourados, Rodovia Dourados - Itahum, Km 12, 79804-970 Dourados, MS, Brazil.

Bradykinin (BK) is an active peptide that binds to the kinin B(2) receptor and induces biological events during the development and adult life. In this study we aimed to investigate the effect of kinin B(2) receptor ablation in the postnatal skeletal muscle development and body composition in adult life. For studies of skeletal muscle development, control (C57Bl6 - WT) and B(2) receptor knockout mice (B(2)(-/-)) were sacrificed at 15, 30 and 90days after birth, the gastrocnemius skeletal muscle was weighed and myostatin gene expression evaluated by real time PCR. For energy balance determination, data from control and B(2)(-/-) at 90 and 120days were collected by calorimetric method. Body composition at 120days was determined by chloroform-methanol (total body fat) and Lowry-modified method (total body protein). The results show that B(2)(-/-) have significantly increased total body weight at 15, 30 and 90days of life, when compared to WT. The weight of the gastrocnemius skeletal muscle was also significantly increased at 30 and 90days of life. Body composition analyses revealed that B(2)(-/-) mice exhibit more total corporal protein and less total corporal fat. Energy balance revealed that B(2)(-/-) have increased metabolizable energy intake and energy expenditure when compared to control mice, resulting in a lower energy gain. Interestingly, myostatin mRNA expression was significantly decreased in 15 and 30days old B(2)(-/-) mice and after icatibant treatment of WT adult mice for 5days. In conclusion, together our results show that kinin B(2) receptor deletion increases lean mass, reduces fat mass and improves metabolism efficiency in mice. The mechanism involved in this phenotype could be related to the reduction of myostatin gene expression during postnatal life. Copyright © 2009 Elsevier Ltd. All rights reserved.

PMID: 20045188 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

Neurochem Res. 2003 May;28(5):711-4.

Influence of temocapril on cultured ventral spinal cord neurons.
Iwasaki Y, Ichikawa Y, Igarash O, Ikeda K, Kino****a M.

Fourth Department of Internal Medicine, Toho University Ohashi Hospital, 2-17-6 Ohashi Meguro-Ku, Tokyo 153-8515, Japan. yaso@med.toho-u.ac.jp

Temocapril, a angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitor, was tested for neurotrophic activity in primary explant cultures of ventral spinal cord of fetal rats (VSCC). Temocapril had a remarkable effect on neurite outgrowth with a 4.2- to 5.1-fold increased over that of control VSCC at their effective concentrations. In temocapril-treated VSCC, choline acetyltransferase (ChAT) activity was also increased 2.4-3.2 times over that of control at 10(-9) and 10(-8) M, respectively. Our data suggest that temocapril is a candidate for neurotrophic factors on spinal motor neurons in vitro. A possible therapeutic role for temocapril in damaged motor neurons, such as in motor neuropathy and amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, remains to be defined.

PMID: 12716021 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


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Posted: Monday, January 25, 2010 7:22:34 PM
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Mary,
No, I am not on any ACE inhibitors. The only thing I am trying now is Big Mike's
and others' suggestion of NAC.
I have to think some more about this Cl angle. It has to do with the brain and with
non-degradative ubiquitination pathways and human RNA helicases. And of
course "adaptive immunity" which covers the waterfront! Mouse and human mechanisms
are different so it is difficult to extrapolate.
Mary Reid
Posted: Sunday, February 07, 2010 8:04:40 PM
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prosons wrote:
Hi Carol,
Last July 08' I was exposed to a concrete/driveway cleaner with butoxyethanol, it was a concentrate at that. In November I started to have weakness in my right hand (the one with the most exposure,) and by December my speech was slurring. I brought the butoxyethanol issue to my neurologists attention as he was diagnosing me with ALS but he did'nt feel there was any relevance. To me it's just too much of a coincidence though. I found some info online saying exposure to this chemical can cause ataxia and muscle flacicity. I'm wondering if there is a way to get tested for the presence of this chemical in your body? In addition to that, it seems that maybe the two of us have a time line researchers may be able to use to link exposure of this chemical to ALS? Any thoughts?
Thanks for responding,
Frank


http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/index.cfm?objectid=070AC403-B110-CA79-3A23AF79DE7B752A
14-WEEK STUDY IN MICE

Groups of 10 male and 10 female mice were exposed to 2-butoxyethanol by inhalation at concentrations of 0, 31, 62.5, 125, 250, or 500 ppm, 6 hours per day, 5 days per week for 14 weeks. Two male and two female mice exposed to 500 ppm died and two males and two females were killed moribund during the first 2 weeks of the study. Final mean body weights of 125, 250, and 500 ppm male mice were significantly less than those of the chamber controls. Clinical findings were observed only in 500 ppm males and females that died or were killed moribund and included abnormal breathing, red urine stains, and lethargy. Hematologic evaluation indicated an anemia that was characterized as normocytic, normochromic, and regenerative in mice exposed to 62.5 ppm or greater; the anemia was more pronounced in females. Liver weights of males exposed to 500 ppm were significantly greater than the chamber controls. In mice either dying early or killed moribund, there were inflammation, necrosis, and ulceration of the forestomach; mediastinal pleura and peritoneal inflammation associated with the forestomach lesions; liver necrosis; renal tubule degeneration; atrophy of the spleen, thymus, and mandibular and mesenteric lymph nodes; and degeneration of the testis. Exposure-related increases in the incidences of hematopoietic cell proliferation and hemosiderin pigmentation of the spleen, Kupffer cell hemosiderin pigmentation of the liver, inflammation and epithelial hyperplasia of the forestomach, and renal tubule hemosiderin pigmentation occurred in male and/or female mice surviving to the end of the study.
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