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DeeBee
Posted: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 6:15:33 AM

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Here are the contact details for Dr.Glass.......

http://neurology.emory.edu/Faculty/Glass.htm

......he may have some great ideas for 'collaborative' ventures? To have experience and expertise on board rather than out in the cold is always a good thing, IMHO.
RobGoldstein
Posted: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 9:49:33 AM

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POSTING THIS SAME THANK YOU IN THIS THREAD AS APPEARED IN ANOTHER ONE IN REFERENCE TO THE WSJ ARTICLE THIS WEEK

Hello,

I would like to thank the ALS Forum users that participated in the story that appeared in the WSJ this week and welcome any new users that may have joined us as a result of that story. This forum is meant as a place for PALS, CALS and others from the ALS community to share ideas about all sorts of things. I think that the article in the WSJ highlighted the importance of these types of free and open online discussions.

So, thanks Ben and Eric (and others that were asked to provide additional background for the stories).

-Rob
OhGosh
Posted: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 3:31:14 PM
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DeeBee wrote:


Here are the contact details for Dr.Glass........

At least it is nice of him to give his email (and I will see if he will reply) openly. Most try to hide even that kind of modern day tool.
Had some correspondence with another ALS expert who seem to shoot down the Ischemia, hypoxia concepts. My mind questions if they can really see them in pathological exams (like the way I keep asking if we can characterize a blood completely after it is out of the human body, how come they have not come up with an acceptable synthetic blood? Error in the approach itself?)
DeeBee
Posted: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 6:04:45 AM

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There's a new device being developed that may be able to identify illness before you develop it and 'print out' appropriate drugs to treat the condition.........

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-17735988

Even at this early stage it may be useful to 'collaborate' with such inevitable medical advances.

( The video is very easy to follow ).
MattJ
Posted: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 7:40:30 AM

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Quote:
Though his body betrays him, Eric Valor's mind is still strong. Diagnosed with Lou Gehrig's disease in 2004, the 43-year-old relies on machines to move, talk, eat and breathe. But that hasn't stopped him from running his own drug trial.

With help, Valor has been injecting sodium chlorite, a chemical used by water treatment plants, into his paralyzed body through a feeding tube. He's convinced it's the active ingredient in NP001, an experimental drug made by Neuraltus Pharmaceuticals Inc. And other patients are following his lead.


http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/lou-gehrigs-disease-patients-research-hands/story?id=16150103#.T46mgdWiZki
HappyPhysicist
Posted: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:19:30 AM
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Bravo Eric! Another nice article and another stop towards more widespread public ALS and the plight of those cursed with it.


If it is done in secret, it is done in vain.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:03:18 AM
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Story could use some comments. The ABC media wonks are counting clicks and comments ;-) ... and there is still much that needs to be covered regarding ALS!

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/lou-gehrigs-disease-patients-research-hands/story?id=16150103
Wayne
Posted: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:04:57 AM
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Awesome Eric!!
RobGoldstein
Posted: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:11:59 AM

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Wonderful Eric.

-Rob
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Posted: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 2:41:53 PM
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Nemesis wrote:

Another one for my list, the name of Prof. Jonathan D. Glass will be remebered forever in infamy.


Another quote from Dr. Glass:

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"It's pretty frightening," said Dr. Jonathan Glass, neurologist and director of the Emory ALS Center in Atlanta, Ga. "I think it's a cry of desperation for these folks, using something not made to strict standards with no evidence it works."


Does he know that he is more than welcome to come read our posts and even join in the discussion?


If it is done in secret, it is done in vain.
ELYSEE RECLUS
Posted: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 4:14:26 PM

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"strict standards,..."
not surprising that whith such stupid comments they never found a cure; simply idiots!
RL Schafferr
Posted: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 4:37:51 PM

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It's just the typical Neuros train of thought process, ER. I've never met one that was any different then Glass.they all come fromthe same mold. And it's warped
OhGosh
Posted: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 9:50:11 PM
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ImInAwe wrote:
OhGosh: I was very sorry to read about your young daughter. I can imagine few greater parental challenges than the one you face. Best of luck to you and your family.

This discussion blog may not be pertinent to this question, but anyway I am going to do it and on few others where there is lot of activity. Those who can share some light perhaps can make it as PM if necessary.
My daughter, because of frustrations on her part, decided to go global through Facebook and forcing us for a quick decision. We still cling on to to some hope what if it is not ALS and something else (and fear that we may end up regretting to agree with her decision in such a case) since we see many things unique in her. Let me post two specific ones and get the take from PALS and caregivers.
1. Look at the statement from Sandra Lesher Stuban, RN who wrote (in recent ALS newsletter etc):
Advice from the trenches: Top 10 list of equipment:
7. Heating blanket / Space Heater:
I am always cold because I no longer have the muscle mass to generate and maintain heat. My solution is to use an electric (heating) blanket on my bed at night and a space heater in my bathroom where I change cloths and shower. When I start my days warm, I feel letter all day long.

In our case it is exactly opposite: We have been keeping the temperature at around 61 degrees, because that is what she prefers and starts sweating if it is any high. She sits in front of the computer most of the time when awake and wears simple dresses, T-shirts etc. and no sweaters or anything.
2. I also thought that ALS folks do not feel pain that much having lost the muscles. Again she is different.
3. Sensory system and brain power: Her sensory system and intelligence have become great. She gets hurt with small things such as the tags on undergarments or wrinkles on T-shirts and she is not lying. She can spot an ant or a small bug on the wall 10 feet away and ask this guy who wears a glass with a power of -12 to remove it! Or she will point to one hair on a black dress or on her bare hand and insist on us removing it. She moved from a struggling medical school student, understandable since every body going there is intelligent and highly competitive to one with great scores in national medical board exams with minimal preparation and finished the degree in minimal time with all travels to Mayo, JHU etc. as the disease progressed. So, it is confusing.
I am going to raise it with our local Neurologist, but of course, he will have his standard answer (like I like only FDA authorized drugs!) Each patient is unique.
Thanks, OG.
Lolo
Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2012 1:23:17 PM

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The sensitivity to tags and wrinkles may be due to loss of muscle mass (cushioning), when you develop a "Princess and the Pea" hypersensitivity to such things.
RL Schafferr
Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:16:04 PM

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Oh gosh. Where u got no pain in ALS is from someone who knows nothing about ALS. I'm in constant and severe pain. It comes from stiff muscles , cramped muscles, and effort trying to hold arms up, neck pain from head weight. ALS is nothing but pain.
I've been that way for 7/8 years. As far as hot and cold, people with ALS lose the ability to regulate body temp. It can be either way. I'm cold, and then hot. Hating blankets shut my breathing off. How, I don't know but they do. Tags on clothes run me nuts. Hurt like hell.
I must side with your daughter. You are being selfish trying to keep her around. That's the parent / loved one taking over. People with ALS KNOW when it's time and they had enough. Don't keep her around because that's what u want. I'm sorry, but she must have the final say. No one should make that decision but her. She's in a living hell. I know . I'm there's too.
RL Schafferr
Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:00:06 PM

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why the secrecy on the drug? Sounds like other pals may benefit from it also. Are u sworn to secrecy?
I find it hard to follow your post. U say she liked the trip but u wouldn't do again? Why wouldn't she want to acknowledge improvement.?did she have it or do u want to believe she had it? She should know. Maybe it wasn't enough for her? What do u mean play along? Playing along she will recognize and turn on u. I would be truthful always.
Worse thing is pushing her into a corner.
I don't understand " pulling a Schafferr along with me".
If she wants to end her life, she has her reasons. Respect them. As much as it hurts.
HappyPhysicist
Posted: Friday, April 27, 2012 10:31:23 AM
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OhGosh,

Please reconsider your stance on secrecy. It can help all of us if we know what we are each trying. I as say in my signature "If it is done in secret, it is done in vain." The world will lose that important information. The best way is to record your daughter's FRS and FVC scores in patientslikeme and when she started taking this medication.

A case in point, one of the subjects of the NP001 trail was taking steroids while on the trial. That lead to his very premature death. But until his sister found out and told us on this forum we all would have thought that his death was due to NP001, but more importantly this information can help persuade others to stay away from steroids. If this information was kept secret his death would have been in vain but if he made this information public this tragic event could have a very positive effect and even save many lives.

The last thing the ALS community needs it to keep making the same mistakes over and over again, and the only way we can keep this from happening is by being very open about what we are trying and how we are doing.

Thanks,

Ben


If it is done in secret, it is done in vain.
Lolo
Posted: Friday, April 27, 2012 1:44:48 PM

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I understand what folks are saying about the value of sharing, but not everyone feels comfortable disclosing non-FDA approved treatment protocols. Even if the FDA looks the other way, such action might be deemed a violation of some other rule that could put the person at risk in some other way, for example, by jeopardizing a professional license (spoken by someone who wouldn't want to lose hers, even if I may never use it again!). Or maybe there's a more personal reason for non-disclosure (avenging ex-spouse intent on wreaking havoc?). I think there are other imaginable scenarios where non-disclosure may be prudent, my point being that we need to give people the latitude to make their own decisions in this arena.
ELYSEE RECLUS
Posted: Friday, April 27, 2012 1:57:18 PM

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WHICH risk?
everything here is anonymous!
HappyPhysicist
Posted: Friday, April 27, 2012 5:00:18 PM
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Lolo wrote:
I understand what folks are saying about the value of sharing, but not everyone feels comfortable disclosing non-FDA approved treatment protocols. Even if the FDA looks the other way, such action might be deemed a violation of some other rule that could put the person at risk in some other way, for example, by jeopardizing a professional license (spoken by someone who wouldn't want to lose hers, even if I may never use it again!). Or maybe there's a more personal reason for non-disclosure (avenging ex-spouse intent on wreaking havoc?). I think there are other imaginable scenarios where non-disclosure may be prudent, my point being that we need to give people the latitude to make their own decisions in this arena.


Lolo,

I agree completely and I don't want to come across as pressuring anyone, but I do want to point out the incredible benefit to the ALS community of sharing.

Thanks,

Ben


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